tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9226023.post111695299931658719..comments2023-10-23T14:50:56.080-05:00Comments on Soapbox: In the news...noricumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05904523391639958451noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9226023.post-1116966927632735942005-05-24T15:35:00.000-05:002005-05-24T15:35:00.000-05:00Yep, I saw that. ;) Not only would casual drinke...Yep, I saw that. ;) <BR/><BR/>Not only would casual drinkers/smokers probably not smell at the workplace, they probably wouldn't have the same health issues that heavy smokers would.<BR/><BR/>And I can agree to disagree too. Especially how hypothetical this is... it isn't like I'm hiring someone. (However, I hope I don't have to one day advise someone who reeks... :P )noricumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904523391639958451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9226023.post-1116966406682835602005-05-24T15:26:00.000-05:002005-05-24T15:26:00.000-05:00Well, to be nit-picky back at ya, I did address dr...Well, to be nit-picky back at ya, I did address drunk or hung over, just talked about other stuff too. ;) If being drunk or hung-over is affecting their job performance, then they should be disciplined. If it's not, then I don't see a need to discipline them. Plus, it is quite possible to drink and smoke outside of business hours and not show any signs of it when you actually show up for work. Casual smokers/drinkers who do so only on weekends or after work, for example. <BR/><BR/>But I can agree to disagree here. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9226023.post-1116964997185976102005-05-24T15:03:00.000-05:002005-05-24T15:03:00.000-05:00Well, to be nit-picky, I did specifically say drun...Well, to be nit-picky, I did specifically say drunk or hung over... not just having a lunch-hour drink. ;)<BR/><BR/>And yes, I hate BO and perfume too. I've actually told students that if they know, when they leave their house, that they want to come ask me for help, not to wear perfume... since I have a lot of trouble concentrating on their problem when I'm sneezing and my eyes are watering.<BR/><BR/>Somehow I suspect people with bad BO get discreetly passed over in the interview process.noricumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904523391639958451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9226023.post-1116964219856969912005-05-24T14:50:00.000-05:002005-05-24T14:50:00.000-05:00You know, if someone has had a drink or two and co...You know, if someone has had a drink or two and comes to work and can still do their job up to the required standard, I don't really have a problem with it. On the other hand, if they're doing their job sloppily, being belligerent, or any number of other things that come along with being drunk, then they are not performing up to standards and should be disciplined. Coming to work drunk or hung-over should be handled like any other discipline problem.<BR/><BR/>I believe that in Europe it's fairly standard for people to have a beer or two at lunch and then go back to work. That's generally not the case here, but I don't really see why not. Individuals should learn how they handle alcohol and behave accordingly.<BR/><BR/>I don't much care for the smell of smokers either, but I don't think you can ban smoking on someone's personal time just for that. You'd also have to ban people who wear strong perfume and people who don't take baths in order to be consistent and fair. Plus, not all smokers smell like smoke all the time ... I work with one, and I don't think I've ever smelled smoke on her. I don't generally smell it on my housemate either, unless I'm giving her a hug or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9226023.post-1116961416951726092005-05-24T14:03:00.000-05:002005-05-24T14:03:00.000-05:00Yeah, my views are a bit extreme here. I recogniz...Yeah, my views are a bit extreme here. I recognize that as a personality flaw. I still can't stand sitting beside smokers. I might be more forgiving if they didn't affect my airspace.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm... what do you think of people showing up to work drunk or hung-over? The drinking of alcohol was on their own time too.noricumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05904523391639958451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9226023.post-1116958508725459082005-05-24T13:15:00.000-05:002005-05-24T13:15:00.000-05:00On the smoking thing, I guess that's where my libe...On the smoking thing, I guess that's where my libertarian tendencies kick in. Unless and until smoking is illegal, I have a hard time with companies refusing to hire or retain smokers based on what they do outside of work. I MIGHT be okay with charging them higher health insurance premiums (depending on how that was implemented), but I don't believe that people should be prohibited from engaging in legal activities on their own time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com